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𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓯 𝓓𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓽<a href="https://chaos.social/@kubikpixel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kubikpixel</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/chrome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chrome</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#firefox</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/web" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#web</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#browser</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/joke" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#joke</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/webbrowser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webbrowser</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privacy</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/internet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#internet</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/it" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#it</a> <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/fun" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fun</a> Actually all of them (except Firefox, of course) are based on <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/KHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a>, which is, what Apple forked for <a href="https://hostsharing.coop/tags/WebKit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebKit</a>, which Google forked for Chrome. 😉

Elias Probst<a href="https://hachyderm.io/@j3j5" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@j3j5</a> if you dig deeper, it's all just <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/KDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KDE</a>'s <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/KHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a> deep below the surface... (except of Firefox) 😄<a href="https://furry.engineer/@silvereagle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@silvereagle</a>

Nordnick :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@RudiK" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@RudiK</a>Also...* <a href="https://norden.social/tags/Gecko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gecko</a> * <a href="https://norden.social/tags/KHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a> -> <a href="https://norden.social/tags/WebKit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebKit</a> -> <a href="https://norden.social/tags/Blink" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Blink</a>Fertig.Oder fehlt ein verbreiteter und aktiv entwickelter <a href="https://norden.social/tags/HTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HTML</a>-Renderer?<a href="https://social.heise.de/@heiseonline" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@heiseonline</a>

TOV<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@kdedude" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kdedude</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@EikeHein" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@EikeHein</a> <a href="https://floss.social/@tde" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tde</a> I am not sure what the phrase "a Real KHTML browser" actual means.KHTML is a discontinued browser engine that was developed by the KDE project. It originated as the engine of the Konqueror browser in the late 1990s, but active development ceased in 2016. It was officially discontinued in 2023.<a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/kde" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#kde</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Konqueror" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Konqueror</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#browser</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/engine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#engine</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/khtml" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#khtml</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/html" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#html</a>

Elias Probst<a href="https://federate.social/@pgiulan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@pgiulan</a> 95% of all the browsers/engines are just <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/KDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KDE</a>'s <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/KHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a> wrapped in a bunch of different trenchcoats 😁 <a href="https://noc.social/@AAKL" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@AAKL</a>

R. L. Dane :Debian:<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@governa" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@governa</a>I wish they would just abandon <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/blink" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Blink</a>, as it's clearly <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/evil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#evil</a>.You've got <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/webkit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebKit</a>, <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/gecko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gecko</a>, heck, if I was depending on <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Google</a> code, I'd be even giving <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/khtml" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a> and <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NetSurf</a> a serious look.Companies with the slightest hint of having a soul, please repeat after me: Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted. Google can not be trusted.

hugovangalen 🤖 🕹️ 😼Three days ago, the 4th of November, would've been <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/KHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a> 25 year anniversary. 🥳Hoorrray!WTF is KHTML?Chances are you are kind of using it, because <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/WebKit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebKit</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/Blink" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Blink</a> rendering engines are all forked from this open-source project originally intented for the browser of the KDE window environment.That basically makes <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/Opera" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Opera</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/Safari" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Safari</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/Chrome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Chrome</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/Chromium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Chromium</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/Brave" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Brave</a> (and possibly others) all *siblings*.KHTML is *literally* the mother of all browsers."KHTML is dead - long live KHTML!" 😀

VivaldiOn the occasion of <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/WorldWideWebDay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WorldWideWebDay</a>, it's worth a mention that <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Oslo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Oslo</a>, <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Norway" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Norway</a> has been instrumental in giving birth to two most influential browser engines - <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/KHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a> and <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Presto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Presto</a>. And browsers such as <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Opera" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Opera</a> and <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Vivaldi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Vivaldi</a>. A building in <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Oslo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Oslo</a> has a great history: an incubator of the <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/KHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a> & <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Presto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Presto</a> engines. Presto had a massive influence on web standards & KHTML went on to form the basis of <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Webkit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Webkit</a> and <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Blink" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Blink</a>, on which most web browsers are now based, including Vivaldi. Continue reading ⬇️ 1/2

keithzg<a class="u-url mention" href="https://social.sdf.org/@mjgardner" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mjgardner</a> <a class="u-url mention" href="https://liberdon.com/@kpeace" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kpeace</a> <a class="u-url mention" href="https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@aral</a> I was imagining something a bit different but not wholly dissimilar, where the devs only had easy access to text browsers on their preferred and/or personal systems but, having seen GUI browsers in Mosaics lineage on other platforms, were inspired to pursue creating (or joining in the effort and bringing to fruition) one themselves. But I'm sure there were GUI browsers inspired or directly derived from Mosaic available on Linux at the time, I just don't know what they were. I do vaguely remember some <a class="hashtag" href="https://fediverse.keithzg.ca/tag/netscape" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Netscape</a> versions being ported over in the late 90s? <a class="hashtag" href="https://fediverse.keithzg.ca/tag/konqueror" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Konqueror</a> was probably even inspired in some ways by Internet Explorer to be entirely honest — by the time I encountered it in the early 2000s it was already a full browser of both the web *and* of filesystems (both local and network)! Which naturally meant tabbed file browsing and pane-splitting and such, which blew my mind at the time and which most other systems *still* haven't fully caught up with. If you had told me at the time that Microsoft would eventually switch to using <a class="hashtag" href="https://fediverse.keithzg.ca/tag/khtml" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a> before they finally added tabs to Windows Explorer I would have laughed at your outlandish science-fiction tale; history takes strange turns.

Mark Gardner<a href="https://fediverse.keithzg.ca/users/keithzg" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@keithzg</a> <a href="https://liberdon.com/@kpeace" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kpeace</a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@aral</a> I wonder what the <a href="https://social.sdf.org/tags/Konqueror" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Konqueror</a> / <a href="https://social.sdf.org/tags/KHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a> developers browsed with as they were building their software, hm?

Johannes BrakensiekLittle reminder, that <a href="https://floss.social/@kde" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kde</a> ‘s <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/KHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a> made its way through Apple, returned as <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/WebKit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebKit</a> (<a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/webkitgtk2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webkitgtk2</a>) to the free desktops and still is a free and one of the most portable browser engines working well and serving as an alternative to <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Gecko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gecko</a> and <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Blink" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Blink</a>.Just ran it on a <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/PPC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PPC</a> machine from 2004 yesterday.

scy<a href="https://velocipederider.com/@ruari" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ruari</a> Well I’ve used <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/KHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a> back in the day when it came with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Konqueror" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Konqueror</a> ;)The thing is, I believe in someone forking <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Blink" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Blink</a> when I see it. Until then, I focus on not letting <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Gecko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gecko</a> die.

DigitalcourageAus dem Fediversum erreicht uns eine Richtigstellung: Safari nutzt <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/WebKit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebKit</a> als Rendering-Engine. Chrome und die anderen genannten Browser benutzen die Rendering-Engine <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/Blink" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Blink</a>, Googles WebKit-Abspaltung.WebKit wiederum basiert auf <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/KHTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KHTML</a> (aus <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/KDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KDE</a>).<a href="https://mastodon.social/@kraehenpost/103361699491995591" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mastodon.social/@kraehenpost/103361699491995591</a>/c

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