First impressions of Matrix: frequent lag spikes at upwards of 10+ seconds and now the server is just straight up dead

Please just use IRC, people ;_;

@sir IRC is kind of broken as designed; the server pretty much expects to be talking directly to the user, so there are fundamental things missing, like knowing which past request an error message is a response to, or knowing whether a message you see or sent has been truncated because it was too long (or even what the length limit is)

@kragen @sir "feature i don't want is missing" is not quite the same as "broken by design", but it is very annoying.

@kragen @lain @ciaby scaling problems are not generally protocol problems

@sir @lain @ciaby on the contrary: scaling problems are very often protocol problems, and even more often are much easier to solve by protocol changes than by implementation changes. HTTP scaled better than telnet, gopher, or FTP for protocol reasons; NNTP scaled better along some dimensions than HTTP for protocol reasons; HTTP/2 scales better than HTTP/1 for protocol reasons; TCP/IP scales better than NCP for protocol reasons; and I think, though I'm not sure, that the IRC protocol beats AP

@kragen @sir @lain @ciaby

the IRC protocol beats AP

I have a counter-argument: IRCv3.

@kaniini @sir @lain @ciaby Sorry, due to Mastodon's 512-byte line length limit, I truncated my comment manually; I only meant that the IRC protocol is probably more scalable (admits more scalable implementations) than ActivityPub. And actually the message size limit is one reason for this.

@kragen @kaniini @lain @ciaby
>Sorry, due to Mastodon's 512-byte line length limit, I truncated my comment manually



@kaniini @sir @lain @ciaby you must be this viral to ride this ride:


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