New versions of #XMPP #jabber clients for #Apple #ios and #macos released. Biggest changes are introduction of XMPP #MIX (modern way of groupchats), significant improvements in audio/video calls and message editing/deleting.

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@tigase @ij congrats on the release. Omemo encrypted MUC is still sorely missing. MIX is interesting but young. Not only does it need to mature but clients and servers need to adopt it too.
I'm still hopeful that Siskin will develop into a great iOS client. The progress in the past months is impressive, fingers crossed!

@nezhac @ij Thank you for the kind words. OMEMO for groupchat is on the to-do but without any eta.

MIX is not that young, and we decided to push it to mature it and help with it's adoption as we see it as improvement over MUC to group chats.

@tigase @nezhac @ij well, as it turns out #OMEMO already works for reading messages and files in MUC, for me the most important improvement, good work! 👍

would be cool to be able to manage bookmarks too

@tigase @Muto @nezhac Well, I think in a way like that:
I lately tried to join a private MUC by accident. Although I removed it from the sidebar in Beagle, it tried to rejoin that MUC on every restart of Beagle.
I needed to log in to ConverseJS, part from that MUC and remove it from the Bookmarks.

It would be nice to be able to do this from BeagleIM directly, of course ;)

@Muto @ij @nezhac would you (both) say that instead of having "bookmark management" it would be better to have reliable mapping of joined rooms to bookmarks so removing certain chat would remove it from bookmarks? (I sense that this is the main issue here)

@tigase @ij @nezhac I think it depends on what people are used to, I am used to have bookmark management

I think in a mobile app your approach would be ok for me too, probably would miss the ability to hide / disable a group temporarily

though I don't have a Mac, I prefer bookmarks on desktop


@Muto @tigase @nezhac but then again when leaving a MUC on mobile results in deleting the MUC, it's gone on your desktop as well... don't think this what you want either..


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